Comments on: Working on an update for the Taketori Katana http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/04/21/working-on-an-update-for-the-taketori-katana/ News and thoughts about my adventures in Second Life, Combat: Samurai Island, and Virtual Worlds Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:26:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Kelly Linden gives hope with a reply to SVC-1648 at Daikon Forge http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/04/21/working-on-an-update-for-the-taketori-katana/#comment-1136 Kelly Linden gives hope with a reply to SVC-1648 at Daikon Forge Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:32:10 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/04/21/working-on-an-update-for-the-taketori-katana/#comment-1136 [...] pointed out on a comment to my blog today about the fact that Kelly Linden has finally posted a follow-up [...] […] pointed out on a comment to my blog today about the fact that Kelly Linden has finally posted a follow-up […]

]]> By: Takuan http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/04/21/working-on-an-update-for-the-taketori-katana/#comment-1135 Takuan Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:13:42 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/04/21/working-on-an-update-for-the-taketori-katana/#comment-1135 wtf... Why is it that I'm no longer getting emails whenever that issue is updated? I've actually been removed from the "Watchers" list once, not due to any action on my part :( But.... YAY! wtf… Why is it that I’m no longer getting emails whenever that issue is updated? I’ve actually been removed from the “Watchers” list once, not due to any action on my part :(

But…. YAY!

]]> By: Aimee Congrejo http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/04/21/working-on-an-update-for-the-taketori-katana/#comment-1134 Aimee Congrejo Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:00:18 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/04/21/working-on-an-update-for-the-taketori-katana/#comment-1134 <blockquote><b>kelly linden commented on SVC-1648:</b> I believe I have a fix for the horizontal component of the push not happening. In short the friction keeping an avatar from sliding downhill was just too much for the push to overcome. We had this problem with forces from attachments before (among other things) and fixed it specifically for attachments. I have adjusted the model used for external forces to match how we do attachments (give or take some anti-gravity specific hacks) and it looks much better. However, when comparing to havok1 the push is still only about 75% the force in havok4. Specifically in the script you gave me, if I adjust the version in havok1 to have a basepow of 15 (instead of 20) the pushes look about the same. Conversely increasing the basepow on the havok4 version to ~26 seems to be pretty close. Due to the nature of this function - how finicky it is, that I know there are some things with too much push and that it is already live in its current version - I'm tempted to just fix what I already have - the horizontal component change - and leave it with the reduced force. Thoughts? Curses? Flames?</blockquote> Figgered I'd toss that in there! \o/ /o\ \o/ /o\ /o/ \o\ \o/ /o\ <em>Aimee Congrejo's latest blog post is : <a href='http://secondaimee.typepad.com/blog/2008/04/cant-sleep-so-i.html' rel="nofollow">Can't sleep so I've been playing in Jira</a></em>

kelly linden commented on SVC-1648:

I believe I have a fix for the horizontal component of the push not happening. In short the friction keeping an avatar from sliding downhill was just too much for the push to overcome. We had this problem with forces from attachments before (among other things) and fixed it specifically for attachments. I have adjusted the model used for external forces to match how we do attachments (give or take some anti-gravity specific hacks) and it looks much better.

However, when comparing to havok1 the push is still only about 75% the force in havok4. Specifically in the script you gave me, if I adjust the version in havok1 to have a basepow of 15 (instead of 20) the pushes look about the same. Conversely increasing the basepow on the havok4 version to ~26 seems to be pretty close.

Due to the nature of this function - how finicky it is, that I know there are some things with too much push and that it is already live in its current version - I’m tempted to just fix what I already have - the horizontal component change - and leave it with the reduced force. Thoughts? Curses? Flames?

Figgered I’d toss that in there!

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Aimee Congrejo’s latest blog post is : Can’t sleep so I’ve been playing in Jira

]]> By: Solace Obviate http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/04/21/working-on-an-update-for-the-taketori-katana/#comment-1128 Solace Obviate Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:18:35 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/04/21/working-on-an-update-for-the-taketori-katana/#comment-1128 Um...yah. LOL. I also would love to see how resposnive the slash during jumps are. Um…yah. LOL. I also would love to see how resposnive the slash during jumps are.

]]> By: Takuan http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/04/21/working-on-an-update-for-the-taketori-katana/#comment-1127 Takuan Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:43:12 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/04/21/working-on-an-update-for-the-taketori-katana/#comment-1127 That might be true, yes. I took a good hard look at that section of code last night and made a few tweaks that I hope will help with that. Would you be willing to test a new version and see if that's true? That might be true, yes. I took a good hard look at that section of code last night and made a few tweaks that I hope will help with that.

Would you be willing to test a new version and see if that’s true?

]]> By: Solace Obviate http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/04/21/working-on-an-update-for-the-taketori-katana/#comment-1126 Solace Obviate Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:34:14 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/04/21/working-on-an-update-for-the-taketori-katana/#comment-1126 Hi Robby, since I've stopped spamming my keys, I've found the Taketori to be much easier to use. One thing that I still get pretty consistently is the apparent random strikes when the mouse button is not held. I've been conjecturing of late whether the script that watches for "missed" commands isn't holding onto the previous mouse-click and using it at inopportune times, thus placing the avatar in combat mode when my finger isn't physically depressing the mouse button any more. Just a thought. Hi Robby, since I’ve stopped spamming my keys, I’ve found the Taketori to be much easier to use. One thing that I still get pretty consistently is the apparent random strikes when the mouse button is not held. I’ve been conjecturing of late whether the script that watches for “missed” commands isn’t holding onto the previous mouse-click and using it at inopportune times, thus placing the avatar in combat mode when my finger isn’t physically depressing the mouse button any more. Just a thought.

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