Comments on: Havok™ 4 to be deployed grid-wide soon? http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/ News and thoughts about my adventures in Second Life, Combat: Samurai Island, and Virtual Worlds Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:23:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Havok 4 to be deployed on Monday at Daikon Forge http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-767 Havok 4 to be deployed on Monday at Daikon Forge Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:51:43 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-767 [...] the rumor is true, Havok 4 is to be deployed grid-wide on Monday and [...] […] the rumor is true, Havok 4 is to be deployed grid-wide on Monday and […]

]]> By: Linden Lab™ is looking into the kick issue at Daikon Forge http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-742 Linden Lab™ is looking into the kick issue at Daikon Forge Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:24:49 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-742 [...] DAZ|Studio « Havok™ 4 to be deployed grid-wide soon? [...] […] DAZ|Studio « Havok™ 4 to be deployed grid-wide soon? […]

]]> By: Takuan http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-739 Takuan Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:59:02 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-739 I understand. Linden Lab would likely not want that information out until they were clearly ready to commit to a date, leaving them room to change their minds. Fortunately, whether or not you can confirm or deny whether your own blog had such information, it was clearly visible in questions on subsequent Second Life® Blog posts as well as Massively, thus saving you the need to do so :) Had it not been also mentioned elsewhere, I would have waited to mention this information. I would certainly not wish for anyone to be upset at you, you did after all allegedly remove the alleged information when allegedly asked. Hopefully there will be more good to come of such an aggressive release date than there will be harm done. I'm sure we would all like a more stable grid, though I absolutely shudder when I think that the C:SI devs might have fifteen thousand angry customers because of something that Linden Lab has done. I understand. Linden Lab would likely not want that information out until they were clearly ready to commit to a date, leaving them room to change their minds.

Fortunately, whether or not you can confirm or deny whether your own blog had such information, it was clearly visible in questions on subsequent Second Life® Blog posts as well as Massively, thus saving you the need to do so :)

Had it not been also mentioned elsewhere, I would have waited to mention this information. I would certainly not wish for anyone to be upset at you, you did after all allegedly remove the alleged information when allegedly asked.

Hopefully there will be more good to come of such an aggressive release date than there will be harm done. I’m sure we would all like a more stable grid, though I absolutely shudder when I think that the C:SI devs might have fifteen thousand angry customers because of something that Linden Lab has done.

]]> By: Darien Caldwell http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-738 Darien Caldwell Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:42:29 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-738 I can neither confirm nor deny I was asked to pretty please remove my blog post, until such as time as the true date was confirmed. But I would say it is likely to be coming "Sometime Soon" ™ <em>Darien Caldwell's last blog post..<a href='http://dariencaldwell.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/new-sort-of-collar-necklace-released/' rel="nofollow">New (sort of) Collar (Necklace?) Released</a></em> I can neither confirm nor deny I was asked to pretty please remove my blog post, until such as time as the true date was confirmed.

But I would say it is likely to be coming “Sometime Soon” ™

Darien Caldwell’s last blog post..New (sort of) Collar (Necklace?) Released

]]> By: torqued http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-737 torqued Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:44:17 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-737 If thats how they going to treat there customers just ignoring important bugs then screw them. Theyll either crasha dna burn or get there shit together eventually. <em>torqued's last blog post..<a href='http://2ndlifesucks.com/2008/03/24/ill-wait-for-the-c-d/' rel="nofollow">I’ll Wait For The C & D</a></em> If thats how they going to treat there customers just ignoring important bugs then screw them. Theyll either crasha dna burn or get there shit together eventually.

torqued’s last blog post..I’ll Wait For The C & D

]]> By: Zero Gee http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-730 Zero Gee Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:58:38 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-730 I think LindenLabs maybe consider it fixed as much as its gunna be as far as they're concerned. But who knows. I think LindenLabs maybe consider it fixed as much as its gunna be as far as they’re concerned. But who knows.

]]> By: Judo Jung http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-729 Judo Jung Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:50:43 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-729 Yes Zero I realize that, I was just hoping that they fixed this well documented bug before rolling Havok 4 out grid wide. Fingers crossed. Yes Zero I realize that, I was just hoping that they fixed this well documented bug before rolling Havok 4 out grid wide. Fingers crossed.

]]> By: Takuan http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-728 Takuan Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:16:38 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-728 <blockquote>Best way to full test something is to do a full release!</blockquote> Well, I will agree that it is the most sure-fire way to flush out any issues that haven't been found yet, but I would definitely not go so far as to call it "best" or suggest that it can be a valid substitute for having a crack team of Quality Assurance Engineers working on the project full-time. <blockquote>I guess this is probably Havok 4 without push with kick when using CSI weapons (unless that is fixed in the next two weeks)?</blockquote> I don't know whether the kick bug persists, as I've determined to stay out of SL this week for my own sanity. They did do an update today, though I very much doubt the issue is currently resolved, and won't speculate (again for my own sanity) whether it will be fixed in the next couple of weeks. I hope you are right, Zero, that they continue to address critical issues after deployment, rather than (as has seemingly oft been the case in the past) moving on to the next exciting and shiny new thing. There is plenty of anecdotal and historical evidence that growing the features has a higher priority than putting in the "last mile" on smashing bugs. Perhaps we will see better overall grid stability after deployment, which would certainly be welcome, and that might buy LL a bit of credit in my opinion.

Best way to full test something is to do a full release!

Well, I will agree that it is the most sure-fire way to flush out any issues that haven’t been found yet, but I would definitely not go so far as to call it “best” or suggest that it can be a valid substitute for having a crack team of Quality Assurance Engineers working on the project full-time.

I guess this is probably Havok 4 without push with kick when using CSI weapons (unless that is fixed in the next two weeks)?

I don’t know whether the kick bug persists, as I’ve determined to stay out of SL this week for my own sanity. They did do an update today, though I very much doubt the issue is currently resolved, and won’t speculate (again for my own sanity) whether it will be fixed in the next couple of weeks.

I hope you are right, Zero, that they continue to address critical issues after deployment, rather than (as has seemingly oft been the case in the past) moving on to the next exciting and shiny new thing. There is plenty of anecdotal and historical evidence that growing the features has a higher priority than putting in the “last mile” on smashing bugs.

Perhaps we will see better overall grid stability after deployment, which would certainly be welcome, and that might buy LL a bit of credit in my opinion.

]]> By: Zero Gee http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-727 Zero Gee Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:07:19 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-727 There will still be development of Havok4 after its out. People for some reason seem to think, or at least make it seem that they think Linden Lab isn't going to work on havok 4 anymore once its out. This is just a gridwide release of something thats been tested on a select group of sims. Best way to full test something is to do a full release! There will still be development of Havok4 after its out. People for some reason seem to think, or at least make it seem that they think Linden Lab isn’t going to work on havok 4 anymore once its out. This is just a gridwide release of something thats been tested on a select group of sims.

Best way to full test something is to do a full release!

]]> By: Judo Jung http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-726 Judo Jung Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:58:58 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/03/26/havok-4-to-be-deployed-grid-wide-soon/#comment-726 I guess this is probably Havok 4 without push with kick when using CSI weapons (unless that is fixed in the next two weeks)? I guess this is probably Havok 4 without push with kick when using CSI weapons (unless that is fixed in the next two weeks)?

]]>