Comments on: Why do people cheat?

By: Atrus Westland

Atrus Westland — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 03:46:35 +0000

In the last eight years of be seriously gaming in several different genres. And it honestly never fails, cheaters exist everywhere. Throughout these eight years about the five most recent of them have been spent pro gaming off and on in LAN, and tournament type scenarios. Its always the same in every game, and in every situation, a cheater is almost always blatantly obvious.

Very rarely have I ever ran into a situation where I honestly thought that someone was cheating and couldn’t prove it.

By: Takuan

Takuan — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:51:15 +0000

lol

By: Kasumi Hashi

Kasumi Hashi — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:49:47 +0000

I’ll give you a LIST!!! (I don’t even know what that means)

We should use Robby’s comment section like a personal IM, lol

By: JulieAnne Rau

JulieAnne Rau — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:34:15 +0000

LOL Kas… sounds easier to just make a list!

By: Kasumi Hashi

Kasumi Hashi — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:18:04 +0000

@ Julie.. yeah, what do you think people are doing when they are standing around not sparring? Gossiping! lolz, jk

By: Takuan

Takuan — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:57:13 +0000

Good points, and I was thinking of you Kasumi, and Alyssa, when I mentioned that.

I’ll give an example of a score-wipe-worthy cheat : Someone recently had figured out how to directly rez guard prims so that he wouldn’t get hit even though he wasn’t in block. That kind of blatantly obvious cheat is worthy of banning and wiping the score, in my opinion. Maybe not if just done as a gag with a friend, but when done against several opponents with the clear intention of being “unbeatable”, it’s disgusting.

Oh, and I don’t necessarily mean a public list, but rather if you personally knew someone used a cheat like I mentioned above, you’d (or most people would) be pretty likely to tell their friends about it. Word gets around through purely organic channels when stuff like that occurs, there’s no need for a public list.

By: JulieAnne Rau

JulieAnne Rau — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:49:16 +0000

Hey Kas, how am I to know who is cheating then? Is that how rumors start? psst… they got there score whipped so they must be cheating?

JulieAnne

By: Kasumi Hashi

Kasumi Hashi — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:24:19 +0000

I like the ban and score wipe options, but you are right about people jumping to the conclusion that someone is cheating when they are just way better. I think 99% of cheating accusations are a case of someone trying to win even though they lost (”I didn’t really lose, they just cheat!”).

I remember when I was new to CSI there were rumors about Alyssa because she was so much better than everyone, and for a while I sorta wondered myself. Then I got to know her, and spent a ton of time dueling her, and it became really clear she was just plain way more skilled than everyone at the time.

So long as sim admins are judicious about it I think the ban and score wipe would be good enough. The social chastising will follow without a public list.

By: JulieAnne Rau

JulieAnne Rau — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:20:33 +0000

just for the record, Colin used the term cool or cooler 7 times in his post. I get it Colin! At Money Island, there is a 10L for 10 minutes bench there. It is very crowded as you can imagine. If your sitting on the bench, at the end of 10 minutes; the bench will pay but ejects your avatar. The trick is to resit again before anyone else does. Because I spar and turn everything down on my system, I’m usually pretty fast at resitting. I can’t tell you the number of times I have been accused of cheating or people have assumed I’m a bot. Now how can anyone get confused with my cute face in comparisons to a bots?

JulieAnne

By: Solace Obviate

Solace Obviate — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:06:15 +0000

No you are quite right Tak. This is how it’s been explained to me. It appears that it’s an error in how your computer or perhaps SL (or both) interprets keystrokes. If you kept your forward key down while in a non-translational (non-forward moving) anim, as soon as the anim was over, the system (whichever it is) over-interprets the key that you’d been mashing. So you end up zooming about. Ok that was a terrible description. But regardless the idea should be applicable to any non-translational anim. Is the same thing happens when I land after a jump? I will usually keep my forward key down in the air to direct my jump trajectory. Perhaps when I land, that forward keystroke gets misinterpreted. And we end up with that familiar whipping half-way round the sim effect. Maybe not?