Comments on: Y’all are messing up my counts! http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/ News and thoughts about my adventures in Second Life, Combat: Samurai Island, and Virtual Worlds Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:32:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Shika http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-289 Shika Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:57:36 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-289 Okay. Let me know how it goes.. I don't go there often anyway >.> It wouldn't break my heart to leave it. Okay. Let me know how it goes.. I don’t go there often anyway >.> It wouldn’t break my heart to leave it.

]]> By: Takuan http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-288 Takuan Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:48:01 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-288 I don't think that's really a problem, or at least I don't want to go shaking things up with this issue. I mostly posted about it, as I said earlier, to rant a little and let people know I was working on the "behind the scenes" stuff. I am not recommending that anyone change anything about their groups, or at least I'm not doing so yet. I'd rather find a way to work around the issue from my side. I don’t think that’s really a problem, or at least I don’t want to go shaking things up with this issue. I mostly posted about it, as I said earlier, to rant a little and let people know I was working on the “behind the scenes” stuff.

I am not recommending that anyone change anything about their groups, or at least I’m not doing so yet. I’d rather find a way to work around the issue from my side.

]]> By: Shika http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-287 Shika Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:38:24 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-287 Yep, I'm in Kyousei as a visitor so I can spar on their land. Hmm. Yep, I’m in Kyousei as a visitor so I can spar on their land. Hmm.

]]> By: Malachi Rothschild http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-286 Malachi Rothschild Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:28:58 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-286 Colin, What we've done in setting up The Final Stand is set the everyone role for guests. That way we can make guests invisible without running into the problem of having the guests in a role that requires visibility by default. It would take a bit of time to migrate everyone but that might be a more effective solution for you guys than having two groups. Colin,

What we’ve done in setting up The Final Stand is set the everyone role for guests. That way we can make guests invisible without running into the problem of having the guests in a role that requires visibility by default. It would take a bit of time to migrate everyone but that might be a more effective solution for you guys than having two groups.

]]> By: JulieAnne Rau http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-285 JulieAnne Rau Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:14:29 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-285 *giggles* This is a side of you that I have never seen before. I think I like it! *giggles*
This is a side of you that I have never seen before. I think I like it!

]]> By: Takuan http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-284 Takuan Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:31:47 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-284 Lemme pick me (RobbyRacoon) as an example: The way I am currently calculating the numbers, when a member of more than one clan fights, his duel count is reflected for *each* clan he's a member of. That means that if I fight 20 duels this week, Shadow Samurai's number will go up by 20 as well and Tendai-shu going up by the same amount. I don't think that's a disaster in the short term, and I've been thinking that it's probably not terribly hard to fix that issue programmatically. Lemme pick me (RobbyRacoon) as an example:

The way I am currently calculating the numbers, when a member of more than one clan fights, his duel count is reflected for *each* clan he’s a member of. That means that if I fight 20 duels this week, Shadow Samurai’s number will go up by 20 as well and Tendai-shu going up by the same amount.

I don’t think that’s a disaster in the short term, and I’ve been thinking that it’s probably not terribly hard to fix that issue programmatically.

]]> By: Takuan http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-283 Takuan Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:25:25 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-283 I am not in-world to check right now, but I believe that you can specifically change the visibility of just the "Visitors" role, rather than needing an actual group, which is nice in some cases but ultimately isn't the best option available. I too am a visitor in a clan, Shadow Samurai, but my primary active clan (before I joined C:SI as a developer) was Tendai-shu. While many (most?) clans have "clan rules" that prohibit membership in more than one clan, I know that there are some clans that have no problem with it. I don't want this technical problem to add any extra work or rules to the system, so I'm willing to just live with it for now, until I figure out something better. Mostly this post was just a way for me to vent a little bit, as database work is really not my strongest skill or my favorite, as well as to indirectly let people know that I'm working on C:SI - related stuff even though I've not been in-world much this last week. I am not in-world to check right now, but I believe that you can specifically change the visibility of just the “Visitors” role, rather than needing an actual group, which is nice in some cases but ultimately isn’t the best option available.

I too am a visitor in a clan, Shadow Samurai, but my primary active clan (before I joined C:SI as a developer) was Tendai-shu. While many (most?) clans have “clan rules” that prohibit membership in more than one clan, I know that there are some clans that have no problem with it. I don’t want this technical problem to add any extra work or rules to the system, so I’m willing to just live with it for now, until I figure out something better.

Mostly this post was just a way for me to vent a little bit, as database work is really not my strongest skill or my favorite, as well as to indirectly let people know that I’m working on C:SI - related stuff even though I’ve not been in-world much this last week.

]]> By: Colin http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-282 Colin Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:18:33 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-282 Yeah, I was wrong. It's impossible to exclude someone from 'everone'. Having a separate group for visitors is kind of a pain. Since you can only set one group for a parcel, we can't just say "both the visitors group and clan group have access". Instead, we have to have everyone in the clan in both the clan group AND the visitors group, and then allow access to the visitors group. Can anyone think of a better solution? We actually aren't restricting access to our dojo now, but there's always the possibility that this sim will start getting greifers or something. Yeah, I was wrong. It’s impossible to exclude someone from ‘everone’. Having a separate group for visitors is kind of a pain. Since you can only set one group for a parcel, we can’t just say “both the visitors group and clan group have access”. Instead, we have to have everyone in the clan in both the clan group AND the visitors group, and then allow access to the visitors group. Can anyone think of a better solution? We actually aren’t restricting access to our dojo now, but there’s always the possibility that this sim will start getting greifers or something.

]]> By: Colin http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-281 Colin Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:07:54 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2008/02/07/yall-are-messing-up-my-counts/#comment-281 Hmm, Shika is actually not in Kyousei, but she's a 'visitor' which is a role in our clan group. I will double-check, but I'm pretty sure people with the 'visitor' role are excluded from the 'everyone' role, but I guess that isn't taken into account in the database. I suppose the solution is have a separate visitors group. Hmm, Shika is actually not in Kyousei, but she’s a ‘visitor’ which is a role in our clan group. I will double-check, but I’m pretty sure people with the ‘visitor’ role are excluded from the ‘everyone’ role, but I guess that isn’t taken into account in the database. I suppose the solution is have a separate visitors group.

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