Comments on: Gutsy Gibbon Broke My Bots http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2007/10/27/gutsy-gibbon-broke-my-bots/ News and thoughts about my adventures in Second Life, Combat: Samurai Island, and Virtual Worlds Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:37:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Gutsy Gibbon Broke My Bots « Samurai Pickle http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2007/10/27/gutsy-gibbon-broke-my-bots/#comment-430 Gutsy Gibbon Broke My Bots « Samurai Pickle Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:26:53 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2007/10/27/gutsy-gibbon-broke-my-bots/#comment-430 [...] The post is cross-posted from http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2007/10/27/gusty-gibbon-broke-my-bots/ [...] […] The post is cross-posted from http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2007/10/27/gusty-gibbon-broke-my-bots/ […]

]]> By: Takuan http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2007/10/27/gutsy-gibbon-broke-my-bots/#comment-153 Takuan Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:19:20 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2007/10/27/gutsy-gibbon-broke-my-bots/#comment-153 Oh, I forgot to mention something about my Ubuntu usage that perhaps some people might find interesting. Probably 95% of the time I'm using Ubuntu, it's on a machine in my home office either through SSH (whenever possible) or through NXClient when I need to have a windowed interface. I nearly always run the bots over an SSH terminal since they are console applications that spit out status messages to let me know what's going on. SSH works extremely well in this case, and performance is (usually) fantastic. I love that I can have a dedicated machine for the bots running a free operating system that has excellent performance on an old Toshiba laptop that I acquired from a friend for $100 because he spilled soda on the keyboard and 50% of the keys don't work. It's old and (comparatively) slow and would NEVER run Windows with the kind of performance I'm seeing with Ubuntu. Oh, I forgot to mention something about my Ubuntu usage that perhaps some people might find interesting.

Probably 95% of the time I’m using Ubuntu, it’s on a machine in my home office either through SSH (whenever possible) or through NXClient when I need to have a windowed interface.

I nearly always run the bots over an SSH terminal since they are console applications that spit out status messages to let me know what’s going on.

SSH works extremely well in this case, and performance is (usually) fantastic. I love that I can have a dedicated machine for the bots running a free operating system that has excellent performance on an old Toshiba laptop that I acquired from a friend for $100 because he spilled soda on the keyboard and 50% of the keys don’t work. It’s old and (comparatively) slow and would NEVER run Windows with the kind of performance I’m seeing with Ubuntu.

]]> By: Takuan http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2007/10/27/gutsy-gibbon-broke-my-bots/#comment-152 Takuan Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:14:13 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2007/10/27/gutsy-gibbon-broke-my-bots/#comment-152 That happened to me with the Dapper -> Edgy upgrade as well. Unlike you, however, I had no idea how to resolve the issue, being the Linux noob that I am. On that particular day that was the only machine I had running here at home, so I couldn't very well get online and research a solution either. In the end, I just ended up wiping the machine and re-installing Edgy, which worked the second time around. No idea why, but I finally had a working machine, up until Fiesty at least :/ Don't get me wrong, I really love Ubuntu. I'd probably love it even more if I knew more about Linux, though, because even though Ubuntu is widely regarded as the best entry-level and user-friendly distro, it still has a very long way to go before it's ready for the average home user. That happened to me with the Dapper -> Edgy upgrade as well. Unlike you, however, I had no idea how to resolve the issue, being the Linux noob that I am.

On that particular day that was the only machine I had running here at home, so I couldn’t very well get online and research a solution either.

In the end, I just ended up wiping the machine and re-installing Edgy, which worked the second time around. No idea why, but I finally had a working machine, up until Fiesty at least :/

Don’t get me wrong, I really love Ubuntu. I’d probably love it even more if I knew more about Linux, though, because even though Ubuntu is widely regarded as the best entry-level and user-friendly distro, it still has a very long way to go before it’s ready for the average home user.

]]> By: Colin http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2007/10/27/gutsy-gibbon-broke-my-bots/#comment-151 Colin Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:07:13 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2007/10/27/gutsy-gibbon-broke-my-bots/#comment-151 This was probably the worst upgrade for me too, with Dapper->Edgy being in close second. This time, it completely broke X, which is ironic since I think Gutsy is supposed to have the new "Bulletproof X". After the upgrade, I restarted and when it got to the point of starting X, the monitor stopped getting a signal. I was able to ctrl+alt+F# to a command line, so I checked my xorg.conf and saw it was using the nv driver, which worked in the past to at least get me into Gnome, even though 3D rendering isn't supported by those drivers. I switched it to vesa and restarted gdm, and instead of getting no singal, I got a black screen with a flashing cursor. I ended up having to use Lynx to download the official nvidia drivers and got it working. Maybe it has something to do with compiz enabled by default? But it seems like then I should have at least been able to get to the gdm login screen. This was probably the worst upgrade for me too, with Dapper->Edgy being in close second. This time, it completely broke X, which is ironic since I think Gutsy is supposed to have the new “Bulletproof X”. After the upgrade, I restarted and when it got to the point of starting X, the monitor stopped getting a signal. I was able to ctrl+alt+F# to a command line, so I checked my xorg.conf and saw it was using the nv driver, which worked in the past to at least get me into Gnome, even though 3D rendering isn’t supported by those drivers. I switched it to vesa and restarted gdm, and instead of getting no singal, I got a black screen with a flashing cursor. I ended up having to use Lynx to download the official nvidia drivers and got it working.

Maybe it has something to do with compiz enabled by default? But it seems like then I should have at least been able to get to the gdm login screen.

]]> By: Takuan http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2007/10/27/gutsy-gibbon-broke-my-bots/#comment-147 Takuan Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:53:00 +0000 http://www.daikonforge.com/webtab/2007/10/27/gutsy-gibbon-broke-my-bots/#comment-147 Interesting... I just went to the libsecondlife page to get the SVN url (which I didn't have on this machine) and ran across this post: http://www.libsecondlife.org/wiki/News:SVN_Reorg That sounds like good news, and I hope it means that the "stable" api isn't such a moving target now :) Thanks, libsl guys! Quoted here in case WordPress mangles my url: <blockquote>News:SVN Reorg From libsecondlife Jump to: navigation, search There have been changes to the SVN structure in an ongoing effort to provide a more soothing libsecondlife experience. For more information on the underlying structure, see the SVN Structure page. Active development is no longer to be done in trunk - please keep it to the development branch. For developers, if you are submitting patches keep in mind which branch you are working on ! It should generally be either stable or dev. Our current stable version (0.2) is based off of SVN revision 1295. This was a release soon after major CAPS/het grid work by Linden Lab. It works solid, however has the old Inventory System and is lacking the new CAPS system. Expect version 0.3 towards the end of October. For more information take a look at the Roadmap.</blockquote> Interesting… I just went to the libsecondlife page to get the SVN url (which I didn’t have on this machine) and ran across this post: http://www.libsecondlife.org/wiki/News:SVN_Reorg

That sounds like good news, and I hope it means that the “stable” api isn’t such a moving target now :) Thanks, libsl guys!

Quoted here in case WordPress mangles my url:

News:SVN Reorg
From libsecondlife
Jump to: navigation, search

There have been changes to the SVN structure in an ongoing effort to provide a more soothing libsecondlife experience. For more information on the underlying structure, see the SVN Structure page. Active development is no longer to be done in trunk - please keep it to the development branch. For developers, if you are submitting patches keep in mind which branch you are working on ! It should generally be either stable or dev.

Our current stable version (0.2) is based off of SVN revision 1295. This was a release soon after major CAPS/het grid work by Linden Lab. It works solid, however has the old Inventory System and is lacking the new CAPS system. Expect version 0.3 towards the end of October. For more information take a look at the Roadmap.

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